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Kestle Bay Hotels negotiated the first-year Starter price of £26k. Gary Underwood asked for ten percent off; Owen Tallis declined that but promised a revised price and an order form, signed by Friday.

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As at Fri 9 Oct 2026

Kestle Bay Hotels negotiated the first-year Starter price of £26k. Gary Underwood asked for ten percent off; Owen Tallis declined that but promised a revised price and an order form, signed by Friday.

What happened: Tom Ashdown quoted Starter at £26k for the first year, covering implementation and subscription. Gary Underwood called it steep and asked for ten percent off.

Customer view: Gary said he was interested and that Sam Hollis had made a convincing case. His objection was price, with the business investing hard in infrastructure.

Commercial: Owen said ten percent was more than he could do on a first term, but promised a revised price the same day. Gary agreed to sign by Friday, with Sam and Gary as signatories.

Watch: November is peak season and the go-live timeline depends on IT access. The transcript does not show the revised price or whether the order form was signed.

AI · claude-sonnet-5-5 · as at Fri 9 Oct 2026

Themes

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
Theme
Starter first-term discount
Importance
upsell
Sentiment
positive
Voice
decision-maker

Who was there

BG-Demo

Them

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Next steps

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Owen Tallis to return a revised price and Tom Ashdown to send the order form the same day.
  • Customer to sign by Friday so the four-week setup can start.

Risks

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Price is the stated objection and the customer asked for ten percent off the first term.
  • Go-live before peak season depends on IT access and a Friday signature.

Opportunities

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • A signed Starter order form with Sam Hollis and Gary Underwood as signatories.

Transcript

  1. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Hi Gary, hi Sam, cheers for taking the call. How's your week been?
  2. Sam Hollis
    Sam Hollis
    Good, yeah. Bit hectic but we're keen to move on this.
  3. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    No drama. So we've talked through the concept, how the brain pulls together your guest feedback and support data. Where are your heads at?
  4. Gary Underwood
    Gary Underwood
    We're interested. Sam's made a convincing case. I want to understand the investment though, what's the ask?
  5. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Right. So Starter, which I think is right for you, is £25,500 for the first year all-in. That's implementation and subscription.
  6. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    Owen here. Just to be clear: that covers the four-week setup, getting the brain live on your data, and twelve months of platform. Year two onwards, it renews at the annual rate, no setup costs.
  7. Sam Hollis
    Sam Hollis
    What do we actually get in Starter?
  8. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Fifteen users included. Four system connectors: booking system, helpdesk, that sort of thing. Pages where your team searches and asks questions. And we check in every six months.
  9. Gary Underwood
    Gary Underwood
    How does the setup work? Who does what?
  10. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Our solutions team runs it. Four weeks start to finish. We'll need your IT team for API access, but we do the heavy lifting. You tell us what questions matter to your business.
  11. Sam Hollis
    Sam Hollis
    Support, what's the response time if something breaks?
  12. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Four business hours on critical issues, UK hours, email and chat. Your data refreshes nightly.
  13. Gary Underwood
    Gary Underwood
    November is peak season for us. Can you do four weeks and have us live before then?
  14. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    If we sign this week, we kick off immediately and should be live mid-October. Well before November.
  15. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    That assumes your IT can turn around access. Sometimes that's the bottleneck.
  16. Sam Hollis
    Sam Hollis
    Our IT team is pretty responsive. We can get you keys within a week.
  17. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Perfect. So timeline is: sign this week, you give us access in week two, we build and test, you're live before Halloween.
  18. Gary Underwood
    Gary Underwood
    OK. Is the £25,500 your final number?
  19. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    What are you thinking?
  20. Gary Underwood
    Gary Underwood
    It's steep, honestly. We're investing hard in infrastructure right now. Is there room to move?
  21. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    What sort of number would help?
  22. Gary Underwood
    Gary Underwood
    Ten percent would be ideal. I know that's ambitious.
  23. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    Ten is more than I can do on first term, we're disciplined about discounts. But I don't want price to kill this. Let me work something out and get back to you today. To make the timeline work, I need you signed by Friday. Can you do that?
  24. Gary Underwood
    Gary Underwood
    Friday's fine.
  25. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    I'll send an order form this afternoon with the revised price. It's just what you're buying, dates, who signs. Straightforward.
  26. Sam Hollis
    Sam Hollis
    Once we're live, how do our people actually use it?
  27. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    They log in, type a question...'what are guests complaining about?', and get an answer in seconds. All your data in one place. No manual digging between systems.
  28. Gary Underwood
    Gary Underwood
    What if we ask it something you don't have data for?
  29. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    It tells you. But usually people are surprised by how much data they have once it's all connected.
  30. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    Right. So order form today, signature Friday, we start next week. Who's signing from your end?
  31. Gary Underwood
    Gary Underwood
    Sam and me.
  32. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Perfect. I'll send it to both of you. Once you sign, our solutions team will book a kickoff, that's when we get into the technical detail.
  33. Sam Hollis
    Sam Hollis
    Is there anything we need to do before that kickoff?
  34. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Just think about who should be in the room and what you want the brain to answer first. We'll handle the rest.
  35. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    I'll be tracking this. Tom's your point of contact, but you've got my number if you hit any snags.
  36. Gary Underwood
    Gary Underwood
    Cheers, Owen. Sounds good.
  37. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Cheers, Gary. Speak soon.

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