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Negotiation on 30 Jan 2026 for an Enterprise expansion for regional store teams. The CFO wants the value case and a written price before he answers. Target close is 9 Feb 2026, not yet confirmed by him.

What was said

What this says

Current to 13 Oct 26

Negotiation on 30 Jan 2026 for an Enterprise expansion for regional store teams. The CFO wants the value case and a written price before he answers. Target close is 9 Feb 2026, not yet confirmed by him.

What happened: Tom Ashdown and Owen Tallis negotiated an expansion on top of the Enterprise contract, which runs to 31 May 2026. Karin Sjöberg wants regional store teams added, with a couple of extra connectors later.

Customer view: Mats Eklund, the CFO, asked what the return is and whether the time saved is real. He will not agree a price on a call and wants the document first.

Commercial: Owen proposed a separate order form that co-terminates, priced pro rata, with no second discount. Annika Lund needs the order form reference before she can raise a purchase order.

Watch: Mats asked about headroom in the licensed seats and wants no surprise at renewal. The evidence does not show whether the expansion closed.

AI · claude-sonnet-5-5 · 13 Oct 2026

Themes

Current to 9 Oct 26
Theme
Expansion pricing and value
Importance
upsell
Sentiment
mixed
Voice
decision-maker

Who was there

BB-Demo

Them

Follow-up

Next steps

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • Tom Ashdown sends the draft order form for the expansion on Monday, aiming to close on 9 Feb 2026.
  • Karin Sjöberg sends Mats Eklund the value note on Monday.
  • Tom confirms in writing the order form reference and invoice mechanics for Annika Lund.

Risks

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • The CFO questions whether the time saved is real and wants the numbers before he answers.
  • Licensed seats exceed current use, so the CFO may read the expansion as paying for unused users.
  • He wants no surprise at renewal and the renewal price was not given on the call.

Opportunities

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • Regional store teams want the same view, which adds users on the Enterprise subscription.
  • A couple of extra connectors are likely later, for the store feedback tool and one more source.

Transcript

  1. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown None
    Hello, hello. Can everyone hear me alright? I've got a bit of an echo on my side.
  2. Karin Sjöberg
    Karin Sjöberg None
    Yes, we can hear you well. Good afternoon, Tom. How is everyone today?
  3. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown None
    Not bad at all, Karin, it's Friday so I'm not complaining. How's your week been? Stores keeping you busy?
  4. Karin Sjöberg
    Karin Sjöberg None
    Busy, yes. The January sales are over, so now the store managers have many questions about what customers said. Which is good for us, I think.
  5. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown None
    Ha, that's the best kind of busy. Right, I've got Owen with me, our VP Sales. Owen, you're on mute. There you go.
  6. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis None
    Sorry, thanks. Afternoon all. Good to meet you properly, Mats, Annika. Tom's told me a lot about the account.
  7. Mats Eklund
    Mats Eklund None
    Good afternoon. I have the agenda that Tom sent. Expansion scope, commercial terms, then the order form process. Is that still correct?
  8. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown None
    That's it exactly, Mats. No drama, we'll go in that order. Owen, shall I set the scene, and you tell me where I've got it wrong?
  9. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis None
    Go on. Where does the deal stand against the date, that's what I'd like us to leave with. Everything else I'm happy to be flexible on.
  10. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown None
    So, Lindqvarn went live on Enterprise back in June last year, one hundred and fifty users, ninety-nine thousand a year. That's the contracted figure and it's what's been invoiced, so there's nothing odd there. The contract runs to 31 May 2026. And what we've been talking about since the autumn is an expansion on top of that, bringing more of the e-commerce and store teams in.
  11. Karin Sjöberg
    Karin Sjöberg None
    Yes. Let us anchor this in what we actually want. The first year, we joined customer service, e-commerce and store feedback. Now the store managers ask if they can have the same view for their own region. We should not leave them out.
  12. Mats Eklund
    Mats Eklund None
    What is the return? I have read Karin's note. I would like to understand it in terms of the store-investment plan.
  13. Karin Sjöberg
    Karin Sjöberg None
    Of course. So, the clearest thing is that before, three people spent days putting reports together every month. Now they ask the brain. The stores see complaints and praise in one place, by segment.
  14. Mats Eklund
    Mats Eklund None
    Days of whose time? And is that time saved, or time spent on something else now?
  15. Karin Sjöberg
    Karin Sjöberg None
    Hmm. Partly saved. Partly spent on better questions, I would say. I can write this more precisely for you, Mats.
  16. Mats Eklund
    Mats Eklund None
    Please. Send me the numbers first. Then I can compare with the e-commerce budget.
  17. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis None
    That's fair. Can I ask, so I know what we're pricing, what's the shape of the expansion? More users, more connectors, or both?
  18. Karin Sjöberg
    Karin Sjöberg None
    More users first, the regional store teams. And probably a couple of extra connectors later, for the store feedback tool and one more source. But the first part is people.
  19. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown None
    And just so we're clear on where you are today, Karin, you've got the hundred and fifty seats and I think there's headroom in there. Marcus has the usage numbers, he looks after your account day to day, so I'll get him to send you the picture rather than quote it from memory.
  20. Mats Eklund
    Mats Eklund None
    Headroom. This means we pay for users who do not use it?
  21. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis None
    It means you're licensed for more than you use today, yes. I won't dress that up. Which is why I'd rather we sized the expansion on the teams you actually plan to onboard, not on a round number.
  22. Mats Eklund
    Mats Eklund None
    Good. I prefer that.
  23. Annika Lund
    Annika Lund None
    Sorry, may I ask something from my side? When the expansion is added, is it a new invoice or does the existing one change?
  24. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown None
    Good question, Annika. It would be a separate order form under your existing agreement, so a separate invoice for the expansion, and your current one carries on as it is. I'll confirm the exact mechanics in writing so you're not relying on me waffling.
  25. Annika Lund
    Annika Lund None
    Yes, please. We need the order form reference before we can raise the purchase order. Otherwise the invoice waits in our system.
  26. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown None
    Understood. Leave that with me. We'll get you the order form first and the invoice follows on the usual thirty-day terms.
  27. Annika Lund
    Annika Lund None
    Thirty days from invoice date, that is fine. Is it paid in advance for the whole year?
  28. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis None
    Annual in advance is the standard. Quarterly is possible if you ask for it, but I'd want that written into the order form, not agreed on a call.
  29. Mats Eklund
    Mats Eklund None
    And the expansion. Does it end with the main contract, or does it have its own date?
  30. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis None
    Good one. My preference is it co-terminates, so it ends on 31 May 2026 with everything else and you have one renewal conversation, not two. Tom, that's how you'd see it?
  31. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown None
    Aye, that's the tidy way. One renewal date, 1 Jun 2026 the new term starts. Means Karin and Mats look at the whole picture once.
  32. Mats Eklund
    Mats Eklund None
    Then the expansion is for a part of a year only. So the price would be pro rata?
  33. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis None
    Pro rata to the end of the term, yes. I'll have Tom put the exact figure on paper. I'd rather not say a number to you on a call and have it differ by the time it's written down.
  34. Mats Eklund
    Mats Eklund None
    Good. I do not agree a price on a call. I will look at the document, compare it with the plan, and then I will answer.
  35. Karin Sjöberg
    Karin Sjöberg None
    Mats, if I may, perhaps we also ask whether there is some consideration for being an early customer. Let us think about it together before we ask.
  36. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis None
    I'll be straight with you, Karin. Any discount belongs to the first term and the expansion sits within that, so there's a little room, but I won't discount twice. I'd rather you hear that now than at renewal.
  37. Karin Sjöberg
    Karin Sjöberg None
    Yes, that is clear. Thank you. It is good to know.
  38. Mats Eklund
    Mats Eklund None
    And next year? When the renewal comes, what happens to the cost?
  39. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis None
    Fair to ask. Your renewal is handled by Marcus and Tom together, and the terms come from the list that applies at that point. I'd prefer Marcus gave you the proper renewal picture in good time, rather than me guessing today.
  40. Mats Eklund
    Mats Eklund None
    Then I will ask Marcus. I want no surprise.
  41. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown None
    Fair enough, and he'll be glad you did. Right then, next steps. I'll send the draft order form for the expansion, Annika gets the reference, Karin sends Mats the value note, and we aim to close for 9 Feb 2026. Does that date work, Mats?
  42. Mats Eklund
    Mats Eklund None
    It is possible. If I have the numbers early next week. I will not promise before I see the document.
  43. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis None
    What's the next dated step, then? Draft with you by Tuesday, Mats?
  44. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown None
    Tuesday works. I'll get it over on Monday to be safe.
  45. Karin Sjöberg
    Karin Sjöberg None
    And I will send the note on Monday also. Thank you all, this was useful. Have a good weekend.
  46. Annika Lund
    Annika Lund None
    Thank you. Goodbye.
  47. Mats Eklund
    Mats Eklund None
    Thank you. Goodbye.
  48. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown None
    Cheers all, have a good one. Speak soon.

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