What was said
What this says
Current to 13 Oct 26On 16 Nov 2023 Annette Pocock and Josie Packham saw the brain on a sample of their records and heard Starter pricing of £26k for year one. A formal proposal and a January call were agreed.
What happened: Tom Ashdown and Tobias Renwick demonstrated chat, search and dashboards on a sample of Cuckfield's policy and client records. Josie said they do a lot of that work manually today.
Customer view: Annette asked about connectors, cost, urgent data needs and what happens if BB-Demo ceases operations. Josie said they would need time to think, as it was a lot.
Commercial: Starter was quoted at £6,000 implementation plus £20k a year, £26k in year one. Growth was mentioned as the route to eight connectors.
Watch: Annette said a lot of data lives in Excel, which Tobias called trickier to connect. Giles, the Managing Director, was not on the call.
Themes
Current to 9 Oct 26Who was there
BB-Demo
Them
Follow-up
Next steps
Current to 9 Oct 26- Tom Ashdown to send the formal proposal, pricing, timeline and contract template by Friday of that week.
- Tom Ashdown to book a walkthrough call for early January with Annette Pocock and Giles.
Risks
Current to 9 Oct 26- The Managing Director, Giles, was not on the call, so the budget holder has not yet seen the demo.
- Spreadsheet data may be hard to connect and could slow the four-week implementation or limit the value shown.
Opportunities
Current to 9 Oct 26- Growth, with eight connectors and dashboards, is a natural step if four connectors prove too few.
- More frequent syncs were raised as an add-on for urgent same-day data needs.
Transcript
- Tom Ashdown NoneHi Annette, Josie, can you both hear me okay?
- Annette Pocock NoneYes, we can hear you fine.
- Tobias Renwick NoneAudio is clear on this end.
- Tom Ashdown NonePerfect. How have you both been? How's the week treating you?
- Annette Pocock NonePretty busy actually, couple of new briefs came through, so we've had our heads down.
- Tom Ashdown NoneGood stuff, more work coming in. Right, so what we want to do today is walk you through the brain running on your actual data. We've set up a sample of your policy and client records, so you'll see exactly how it works for Cuckfield.
- Tobias Renwick NoneTo be precise, the brain is a query layer that sits on your Snowflake data warehouse. It queries your data directly, nothing gets copied elsewhere. You retain full control.
- Josie Packham NoneSo you're not storing our information on your side at all?
- Tobias Renwick NoneCorrect. The brain executes the query against your Snowflake and returns the result. Your data never leaves your infrastructure.
- Tom Ashdown NoneLet me share my screen here. Okay, so this is the interface, it's a chat box. You ask a question in plain English and the brain answers. No code, no SQL. For instance, 'Show me all commercial policies renewing in the next quarter with premium over £50k,' and it pulls that back immediately.
- Annette Pocock NoneAnd it's searching across multiple systems?
- Tom Ashdown NoneYes. At Starter you get four connectors: typically your policy system, accounting, email, and one more. Growth gives you eight, adding call data, Slack, that kind of thing.
- Tobias Renwick NoneThe trade-off is that Starter covers your core operations and answers about 80% of the questions people ask. Growth adds richer context, analysing conversations, email threads. Most of the value is in the core four connectors.
- Josie Packham NoneWhat systems do you normally see insurance brokers using?
- Tom Ashdown NoneUsually the policy system is main, Salesforce if they've got the budget, or a specialist insurance system. Then accounting, Xero, that kind of thing. And data ends up scattered in spreadsheets and email.
- Annette Pocock NoneYeah, that's us. Custom policy system, and quite a bit lives in Excel.
- Tobias Renwick NoneThat's really common. We can build a connector to most systems if you have the documentation. Spreadsheets are trickier, the honest answer is you'd want to consolidate that data into one place first.
- Tom Ashdown NoneSo let me show you a real query. I'm going to ask, 'Which clients have three or more active policies, and what's our total exposure?' And watch what it does: it searches across client records, policies, pulls back client names, counts, and sums.
- Annette Pocock NoneHow quickly does that actually return?
- Tobias Renwick NoneTypically seconds. The data is indexed, so a query like that is quite fast.
- Tom Ashdown NoneAnd then you can drill in. If you see a name you recognise, you ask follow-ups...'Tell me everything about this client: policies, dates, any complaints.' The whole picture from across your systems.
- Josie Packham NoneThat's actually useful. We do a lot of that manually at the moment.
- Tom Ashdown NoneThat's the value, time back for your team. The other feature is dashboards. You can build live dashboards: your book by sector, by size, by renewal date. Very visual.
- Tobias Renwick NoneAnd importantly, you don't need to be technical. We have a visual builder: you drag fields in, choose chart types, set filters.
- Annette Pocock NoneCan multiple people use it at the same time?
- Tom Ashdown NoneAbsolutely. Starter includes 15 users. You set permissions by role, so an underwriter sees everything, but an account handler sees only their own clients.
- Tobias Renwick NoneThere's also a search function if you just want to search the brain rather than ask a question. It's like a smart search across all your systems at once.
- Tom Ashdown NoneOn implementation, we're looking at four weeks. We configure the connectors, load your historical data, and train your team. Pretty hands-on through the process.
- Annette Pocock NoneRight. And what does that cost?
- Tom Ashdown NoneSo the implementation is £6,000, that's fixed. And then the subscription is £19,500 a year. So year one all in is £25,500. After that, it's £19,500 a year to renew.
- Josie Packham NoneIs that annual only, or monthly options?
- Tom Ashdown NoneAnnual upfront is standard. We can do quarterly if you prefer, but annual is the way most do it. And we do a check-in every six months, just a call to see how you're getting on.
- Tobias Renwick NoneOne important thing, the brain needs fresh data to be useful. We refresh all your connected systems every night, so by 07:00 the next morning your data is current. If a connection breaks, we alert you immediately.
- Annette Pocock NoneWhat if something urgent comes up during the day?
- Tom Ashdown NoneSo the nightly refresh means you're on yesterday's data until 07:00. We can do more frequent syncs, hourly or even real-time, but that's usually an add-on. For most brokers, once a night is perfect.
- Tobias Renwick NoneOn uptime, we guarantee 99.5% availability. That's about 22 minutes of downtime a month. If we breach it, you get a 5% credit on the subscription fee.
- Annette Pocock NoneAnd what happens to the data if something happens to BB-Demo itself?
- Tobias Renwick NoneWe have a data escrow clause in the contract. If BB-Demo ceases operations, your data is returned to your Snowflake account in a format you can query. You maintain access.
- Tom Ashdown NoneOkay, so that's the outline. Any other questions at this point? Do you want to have a go at asking it something yourselves?
- Josie Packham NoneMaybe after we've had a chance to think about it. It's quite a lot.
- Tom Ashdown NoneYeah, totally fair. So I'll send you over a formal proposal: it'll have all the pricing, timeline, what's in Starter, and the contract template. You can review it and share it with Giles, is he your Managing Director?
- Annette Pocock NoneYes, that's right.
- Tom Ashdown NonePerfect. So we can have another call in January to walk through it, answer any questions, and see where you want to go. Sound good?
- Annette Pocock NoneYes, that sounds good.
- Tom Ashdown NoneBrilliant. I'll get that over by end of week, Friday at the latest. And we'll get something in the diary for early January. Cheers, Annette, Josie.
- Josie Packham NoneThanks, Tom.
- Tobias Renwick NoneThanks both. Speak soon.