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Kingdon Diagnostics logo Kingdon Diagnostics · 2026-02-04 12:45

Graeme Charlton, CFO, heard that active users are more than three times the previous quarter and spread across contract managers. He wants a one-page return case for the board and held off adding another team.

What was said

What this says

Current to 13 Oct 26

Graeme Charlton, CFO, heard that active users are more than three times the previous quarter and spread across contract managers. He wants a one-page return case for the board and held off adding another team.

What happened: Marcus Bell reported about thirty active users a day over the last thirty days, no tickets and nothing overdue. Graeme asked whether the use was real and whether it hung on one person.

Customer view: Graeme said his contract managers are not chasing spreadsheets the way they were. He still asked what the return is, as he has to say something to the board.

Commercial: The order form is £119k a year on Enterprise, matching invoicing, with the term running to 5 Jan 2027. Graeme declined to add another team for now.

Watch: Marcus could not put a figure on the return. Renewal terms sit with Lewis, who is to reach out well before the renewal.

AI · claude-sonnet-5-5 · 13 Oct 2026

Themes

Current to 9 Oct 26
Theme
Usage growth, return case
Importance
renewal
Sentiment
positive
Voice
decision-maker

Who was there

BB-Demo

Them

Follow-up

Next steps

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • Marcus Bell to send Graeme Charlton a one-page usage summary with examples from the contract managers, through his office.
  • Marcus Bell to ask Lewis to contact Graeme about the renewal well before the renewal date.
  • Marcus Bell to book thirty minutes in the spring to review progress.

Risks

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • Graeme needs a return story for the board and no figure has been put on it.
  • He asked what to expect on budget and received no answer on price.

Opportunities

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • Only about thirty of the hundred and fifty Enterprise seats are active, leaving room for another team later.
  • Strong, broad usage gives a solid base for the renewal conversation.

Transcript

  1. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Hi Graeme, can you hear me alright?
  2. Graeme Charlton
    Graeme Charlton None
    Yes, loud and clear. Afternoon, Marcus. Well, just about afternoon.
  3. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Just about, yes. Thanks for fitting this in over lunch. I'll share my screen and say what I'd like to cover. It's a short check-in, twenty-five minutes. Usage since the autumn, how your teams are finding it, and anything you want from us as you start thinking about the year ahead. Happy to jump on a longer call if anything needs more time.
  4. Graeme Charlton
    Graeme Charlton None
    Good. So, what's changed since we last spoke?
  5. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Mainly usage, and it's all in the right direction. I've pulled the numbers. Over the last thirty days you've averaged about thirty active users a day. Compared with the previous quarter that's more than three times what it was.
  6. Graeme Charlton
    Graeme Charlton None
    Three times. That's a lot. Is that real use or people logging in once to have a look?
  7. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Fair question. It's people coming back day after day, and asking questions rather than just opening pages. That's the measure I trust most. Mm, and it's spread across the contract managers, not one or two people doing everything.
  8. Graeme Charlton
    Graeme Charlton None
    Right. That matters to me. I don't want it hanging on one person.
  9. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Understood. From what I can see it isn't. The view that's getting used most is the one that puts each trust's referrals, reporting-turnaround tickets and invoices side by side.
  10. Graeme Charlton
    Graeme Charlton None
    Yes. That's the one my contract managers talk about. They say they're not chasing spreadsheets the way they were. What's the return, though? I'll need to say something to the board.
  11. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Sure. I don't want to put a figure on it that I can't stand behind. What I can show you is the usage and the questions being asked, and I can ask your contract managers to give me a couple of examples in their own words. Would that help?
  12. Graeme Charlton
    Graeme Charlton None
    It would. Keep it simple. A page, not a deck.
  13. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    A page. Done. I'll add the usage trend and the examples.
  14. Graeme Charlton
    Graeme Charlton None
    Anything on the support side I should know about?
  15. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Quiet, honestly. No tickets in the last thirty days, nothing high priority, and nothing outstanding. The nightly refresh has been landing on time as far as I can see.
  16. Graeme Charlton
    Graeme Charlton None
    Good. Finance tells me the same about invoices. Nothing overdue on our side, I believe.
  17. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    That matches what I have. Nothing overdue.
  18. Graeme Charlton
    Graeme Charlton None
    Now, the contract. Remind me where we are. We're on Enterprise, a hundred and fifty users, and the annual figure is the one I signed?
  19. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Yes. The order form is £119,000 a year, and that's what's being invoiced too, so the two agree. The term runs to 5 Jan 2027 and the renewal date is 6 Jan 2027.
  20. Graeme Charlton
    Graeme Charlton None
    Is that within budget for next year? I'm not asking you to change it. I want to know what to expect.
  21. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    I'd rather not guess on that, Graeme. Commercial terms sit with Lewis, so I'll ask him to be in touch well before the renewal. What I'll do on my side is make sure the usage picture is clear so the conversation is easy.
  22. Graeme Charlton
    Graeme Charlton None
    Fine. Lewis, then. Let's keep it simple.
  23. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Will do. One more thing from me. With only about thirty of the hundred and fifty seats active, there's plenty of room. If you want me to run a short session for another team, I'm happy to.
  24. Graeme Charlton
    Graeme Charlton None
    Hold that thought. Let me see how the contract managers get on first. I'd rather it grew by itself.
  25. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Makes sense. So, next steps. I'll send you the one-page usage summary with a couple of examples from your team, and I'll ask Lewis to reach out about the renewal. Shall we book thirty minutes in the spring to see where it's got to?
  26. Graeme Charlton
    Graeme Charlton None
    Yes, do that. Send it through my office. Thank you, Marcus.
  27. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Thanks, Graeme. Speak soon.

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