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On the 10 Nov 2025 QBR, the CFO asked what the brain is worth and wanted a one-page measure with a stated base, ahead of the Enterprise term ending in February. Usage and tickets were healthy; Lewis promised renewal terms in writing.

What was said

What this says

Current to 13 Oct 26

On the 10 Nov 2025 QBR, the CFO asked what the brain is worth and wanted a one-page measure with a stated base, ahead of the Enterprise term ending in February. Usage and tickets were healthy; Lewis promised renewal terms in writing.

What happened: Quarterly review of the Enterprise account. Deepa Chauhan wanted an account view she could put in front of the regional directors, and Malcolm Ridgway joined late and pressed on value.

Customer view: Malcolm asked what faster answers are worth and rejected a percentage with no base. He wants disputes cleared and accounts released from stop on one page each quarter, and a draft before Christmas.

Commercial: Lewis Kerr stated Enterprise at £116k a year plus VAT, matching the order form and invoices. He promised renewal terms in writing the same day, and the term ends at the end of February.

Watch: Merged branch accounts can show twice in the CRM, which could double up dispute counts until Tariq Saleem settles the mapping. The evidence does not show whether the terms were sent.

AI · claude-sonnet-5-5 · 13 Oct 2026

Themes

Current to 9 Oct 26
Theme
Renewal value case
Importance
renewal
Sentiment
mixed
Voice
decision-maker

Who was there

BB-Demo

Them

Follow-up

Next steps

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • Lewis Kerr sends the renewal terms in writing on the day of the call.
  • Daniel Okafor drafts the one-page value summary with Deepa before Christmas.
  • Tariq Saleem checks the duplicate accounts and writes to Malcolm and Deepa before the draft.

Risks

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • The CFO has no value figure yet and wants a measured base before he supports the renewal.
  • Duplicate trade accounts from merged branch records could distort dispute counts in the value summary.

Opportunities

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • Active users are under a third of the two hundred licensed, so other branches can join without a contract change.
  • A value page on stops and disputes, agreed with the CFO, gives the renewal a board-ready case.

Transcript

  1. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor None
    Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for your time. Let me just check who has joined. I can see Deepa and Tariq, and Lewis is with me. Malcolm, are you on the line yet?
  2. Deepa Chauhan
    Deepa Chauhan None
    Not yet. He's finishing something with the auditors' people, he said give him five minutes and carry on. Can you all hear me all right? I've changed headset.
  3. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor None
    Clear as anything. Tariq, you're a little quiet, I think.
  4. Tariq Saleem
    Tariq Saleem None
    Is that better? I moved the microphone. Cheers.
  5. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor None
    Much better. Right, so this is the quarterly review for the Enterprise account, and the plan is simple. I'll go through how the team is using the brain, then the tickets, then what it's been worth to you, and then Lewis will talk about February. Deepa, you usually open with the one thing you need from the call. Is that still the way?
  6. Deepa Chauhan
    Deepa Chauhan None
    It is, yes. The one thing: I want to leave with a view of the account data I can put in front of the regional directors at the next account-data review. Which account, which branch, what's happening to it. Not a slide about features. Something Malcolm would also sign up to.
  7. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor None
    Understood. Just to close the loop on that, I'll come back to it at the end and we'll agree who does what. Can I start with usage?
  8. Deepa Chauhan
    Deepa Chauhan None
    Please.
  9. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor None
    So over the last thirty days you've had nearly sixty people active on an average day, and that's up by about a fifth on the previous quarter. That's a good move. And it isn't one team doing it. It's branch managers, key-account people and a decent group in credit control, which is what you bought Enterprise for.
  10. Deepa Chauhan
    Deepa Chauhan None
    That's about right from where I sit. The credit control group came in later than the others, but they're the ones asking the most questions now.
  11. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor None
    And that's the pattern I'd hoped for. How is the team finding it, day to day? Forget the numbers for a moment.
  12. Deepa Chauhan
    Deepa Chauhan None
    Honestly, better than I expected at this stage. Three things. The branch managers open the account view before they ring the customer. The key-account managers have stopped sending each other spreadsheets about disputes. And credit control can see the call notes next to the invoice. A year ago that was three systems and a lot of guessing.
  13. Tariq Saleem
    Tariq Saleem None
    From my side it's fewer emails with attachments, which I'm not going to complain about.
  14. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    If I can add one thing, only so it's on the record. You've two hundred licensed users and the active number is under a third of that. I'm not raising it to sell you anything. The usage doesn't call for it. It just tells me there's room for the other branches to come in without anyone needing to change the contract.
  15. Deepa Chauhan
    Deepa Chauhan None
    Yes, that's the next conversation really. We've been careful. I'd rather the account view was trusted by the first branches before I tell the regions it's there.
  16. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor None
    That's sensible, and I'd rather you went that way round too.
  17. Malcolm Ridgway
    Malcolm Ridgway None
    Afternoon. Sorry, I'm late. Who's talking?
  18. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor None
    Malcolm, good afternoon, thank you for joining. We've just been through the usage. I'll give you the short version when you're settled.
  19. Malcolm Ridgway
    Malcolm Ridgway None
    Go on, then. What has changed since the last one?
  20. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor None
    More people using it, and more of them from credit control. Active users are up by about a fifth quarter on quarter, to nearly sixty on an average day. Tickets are few. Nothing high priority in the last month. And your invoices are all paid on time.
  21. Malcolm Ridgway
    Malcolm Ridgway None
    Paid on time is my team, not you. What do the users do with it? Specifically.
  22. Deepa Chauhan
    Deepa Chauhan None
    Can I take that, Malcolm? Because it's the same answer I'd give the directors. Credit control picks up an account that's on a hold or in dispute. Before, they rang the branch, the branch rang the key-account manager, and nobody had the same story. Now they ask the brain for the account, and they see the orders, the dispute, the last call and the open invoices in one place.
  23. Malcolm Ridgway
    Malcolm Ridgway None
    And the cost of that being quicker is what?
  24. Deepa Chauhan
    Deepa Chauhan None
    I can't give you a figure today, and I'd rather say that than make one up. What I can tell you is the conversation in the review is different. We spent the first twenty minutes last time agreeing what the facts were. This time we went straight to what to do.
  25. Malcolm Ridgway
    Malcolm Ridgway None
    Mm. What does that do to debtor days?
  26. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor None
    I'll be straight with you, Malcolm. The brain shows you the accounts and what's happening to them. It doesn't move debtor days by itself. People acting on it do. What I can do is help you and Deepa agree a measure now, before the renewal, so that when the board asks what it's worth there's a number with a base under it.
  27. Malcolm Ridgway
    Malcolm Ridgway None
    A percentage with no base is no use to me.
  28. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor None
    Agreed. So we'd start from your own figure for the accounts that went on stop, and the time it took to clear a dispute, and we'd say which of those you actually care about. Not ours. Yours.
  29. Malcolm Ridgway
    Malcolm Ridgway None
    Disputes cleared and accounts released from stop. Those two. Show me where the numbers come from.
  30. Deepa Chauhan
    Deepa Chauhan None
    That's my line, Malcolm, you've taken it.
  31. Malcolm Ridgway
    Malcolm Ridgway None
    Then I've learned something from you.
  32. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor None
    Which makes it easy. Let's put that in the actions. Before that, Tariq, could you take us through the tickets? I know it's your area, and you always open with them.
  33. Tariq Saleem
    Tariq Saleem None
    Yes. Four in the last thirty days, none of them high priority. A couple were mapping questions, matching an account in the branch system to the right record in the CRM. That's a mapping question, not a fault. The others were small how-to ones. I've no open ticket that's waiting on BB-Demo.
  34. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor None
    That matches what I see. The nightly loads have been complete before the start of the working day all quarter, as far as I can tell. Tariq, is that your experience?
  35. Tariq Saleem
    Tariq Saleem None
    I'll check the load log to be certain, but I haven't had anyone tell me the morning view was stale. If they had, I'd have heard it from Deepa within the hour.
  36. Deepa Chauhan
    Deepa Chauhan None
    I would. Loudly.
  37. Tariq Saleem
    Tariq Saleem None
    There's one thing I'd flag, not a ticket yet. When branches merge two trade accounts in the branch system, the CRM sometimes keeps both for a while. The brain follows what it's given. So you can see two versions of what is really one customer.
  38. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor None
    That's useful. Is that something you want us to look at with you, or is it better handled on your side first?
  39. Tariq Saleem
    Tariq Saleem None
    My side first. I don't want to change a mapping without Deepa agreeing it. But I may want an hour with one of your engineers to be sure I'm not creating a second problem.
  40. Deepa Chauhan
    Deepa Chauhan None
    Yes. Tariq tells me first, I tell the key-account managers, and then it changes. That's the order.
  41. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor None
    Of course. I'll come back to you by the end of the week with a time for that hour. Just so nobody is left waiting.
  42. Malcolm Ridgway
    Malcolm Ridgway None
    Two versions of one customer. Does that touch credit limits?
  43. Tariq Saleem
    Tariq Saleem None
    It can, if the limit sits on one record and the orders sit on the other. That's exactly why I want it tidy. Not a risk today, as far as I can see. But I'd rather prove it than assume it.
  44. Malcolm Ridgway
    Malcolm Ridgway None
    Prove it, then. Put it in writing when you have.
  45. Tariq Saleem
    Tariq Saleem None
    Will do. Short note to you and Deepa.
  46. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor None
    Good. Let me share a couple of things on the screen, if I may. Give me a moment. Can you see it, the usage page?
  47. Deepa Chauhan
    Deepa Chauhan None
    Yes, I can see it.
  48. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor None
    So the line you can see climbing is questions asked. It's the best single measure of whether people find it worth opening. And what I'd draw your eye to is who is asking. It isn't one person. It's spread across a good number of people, which matters, because if it were one person asking most of the questions and they left, you'd lose most of the value overnight.
  49. Deepa Chauhan
    Deepa Chauhan None
    I'd noticed that. A few months ago a lot of it was me and two of the key-account managers. It's not now.
  50. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor None
    It isn't, no. And the dashboards you've built yourselves are still there, which tells me the investment is yours rather than ours. That's a healthy sign.
  51. Malcolm Ridgway
    Malcolm Ridgway None
    I don't take meetings about dashboards.
  52. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor None
    No, quite right, I'll leave the dashboards alone. The only reason I mention it is that you won't need us to maintain them.
  53. Malcolm Ridgway
    Malcolm Ridgway None
    Good. Lewis. February. What do you need from me?
  54. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Thank you, Malcolm. To put a number on it, the contract is Enterprise at £116,500 a year, plus VAT. The order form and the invoices both say the same, so there's nothing to reconcile. The term ends at the end of February, and I'd like to be clear well before then what you want it to look like.
  55. Malcolm Ridgway
    Malcolm Ridgway None
    Same price?
  56. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    I don't want to quote that from memory, Malcolm. I'll confirm the renewal terms against the executed order form and send them over today, in writing, so you've got the schedule in front of you before anyone asks you to sign anything.
  57. Malcolm Ridgway
    Malcolm Ridgway None
    Today. Right. And the first term's discount, does that fall away?
  58. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Any discount from the first term applies to that term only, so I'll show you the position line by line. I'd sooner you saw it written down than took my word for it on a call.
  59. Malcolm Ridgway
    Malcolm Ridgway None
    Fair. Anything else on that order form I should know?
  60. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Nothing I'd want to add to your commitment. Your user count, your connectors and the service levels carry across as they are. If the other branches come in and you need more, that's a separate, co-termed quote, and only if the usage supports it.
  61. Deepa Chauhan
    Deepa Chauhan None
    I don't think we're asking for more. We're asking to get more out of what's there.
  62. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Which is what I'd prefer to hear.
  63. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor None
    And from my side, so nobody is surprised, the formal renewal notice will come from me, with the usage and the value summary alongside it. I'd like the value summary to be the thing Malcolm has already agreed, not something that lands cold.
  64. Malcolm Ridgway
    Malcolm Ridgway None
    Then I want a draft before Christmas. Not January.
  65. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor None
    Before Christmas it is. I'll work with Deepa on the content and she can tell me where your own figures are better than mine.
  66. Deepa Chauhan
    Deepa Chauhan None
    I'll pull the stop and dispute numbers from credit control. They'll want to be in the room anyway. Let's get credit control in the room for that one.
  67. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor None
    Please do. Malcolm, is there something you'd want to see on the page that isn't there today?
  68. Malcolm Ridgway
    Malcolm Ridgway None
    A single page. Accounts on stop, disputes open, how long they've been open. Same measure each quarter. Then I can put it in front of the board without explaining it.
  69. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor None
    Good. That's clear. One page, same measure each quarter, base stated. I'll write it exactly like that.
  70. Tariq Saleem
    Tariq Saleem None
    I'd add that the mapping needs to be settled first, otherwise the dispute counts will double up for the merged accounts.
  71. Malcolm Ridgway
    Malcolm Ridgway None
    Then settle it first.
  72. Tariq Saleem
    Tariq Saleem None
    Understood. I'll have the check done and a note to you before the draft.
  73. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor None
    Thank you. Anything else anyone wants to raise before we wrap? Deepa, you'd one thing at the start. Did we get it?
  74. Deepa Chauhan
    Deepa Chauhan None
    Mostly. I'll have the shape of the account view for the directors once Tariq's mapping is sorted and we've agreed the page with Malcolm. I'm not going to promise the regions anything that doesn't exist yet, so I'll show them what's there.
  75. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor None
    That's a sensible line. Let me just read back so we agree. Tariq checks the duplicate accounts and writes to Malcolm and Deepa, and I come back to him by the end of the week with a time for an hour with an engineer. Deepa gets the stop and dispute figures from credit control. I draft the one-page summary for before Christmas. Lewis sends the renewal terms in writing today. Have I missed anything?
  76. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    That's all of it. I'll send that over today.
  77. Malcolm Ridgway
    Malcolm Ridgway None
    Good. Nothing else from me.
  78. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor None
    Thank you all. Best wishes, and speak soon.
  79. Deepa Chauhan
    Deepa Chauhan None
    Thanks, everyone. Speak soon.
  80. Tariq Saleem
    Tariq Saleem None
    Cheers, all.

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