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Harrowden Foods / BB-Demo – Proposal

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Harrowden Foods logo Harrowden Foods · 2026-06-11 14:45

Lewis Kerr presented a £4,405 plus VAT quote to bring Harrowden Foods' customer service team onto the brain, co-termed to the 5 Jan 2027 renewal. Gemma Holt is keen but needs her budget holder to sign.

What was said

What this says

Current to 13 Oct 26

Lewis Kerr presented a £4,405 plus VAT quote to bring Harrowden Foods' customer service team onto the brain, co-termed to the 5 Jan 2027 renewal. Gemma Holt is keen but needs her budget holder to sign.

What happened: Lewis Kerr presented a £4,405 plus VAT quote to bring Gemma Holt's customer service team onto the brain under the existing Growth subscription. It is co-termed to the 5 Jan 2027 renewal and adds no connectors.

Customer view: Gemma said the quote was less than she had braced for and called it the easiest purchase she had tried to make. She cannot sign alone, so the budget holder must approve.

Commercial: The £50k Growth contract is unchanged and matches what has been invoiced. Lewis said usage was nowhere near the forty licensed users and recommended no upgrade.

Watch: The call recorder is not in the quote and was left for a later review. The evidence does not show whether the quote was signed by 17 Jun 2026.

AI · claude-sonnet-5-5 · 13 Oct 2026

Themes

Current to 9 Oct 26
Theme
Customer service expansion quote
Importance
upsell
Sentiment
positive
Voice
champion

Who was there

BB-Demo

Them

Follow-up

Next steps

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • Lewis Kerr to send the one-page quote showing £4,405 plus VAT and the co-termed end date the same day.
  • Gemma Holt to take it to the budget holder and return it by the end of the following week, with 17 Jun 2026 pencilled in.
  • Amara to run the first session with the team lead present, using real complaints.

Risks

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • Sign-off sits with a budget holder who is not on the call, so timing could slip past 17 Jun 2026.
  • The call recorder request is not quoted and could be lost if it is not flagged for the later review.

Opportunities

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • The customer service team joins the Growth subscription using connectors already in place.
  • The call recorder is a possible future connector conversation, to be looked at with Amara.

Transcript

  1. Gemma Holt
    Gemma Holt None
    Hello, hello. Can you hear me? I've got the headset on today, it's a bit echoey in this room.
  2. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    I can hear you fine. Good afternoon, Gemma. No echo at my end.
  3. Gemma Holt
    Gemma Holt None
    Brilliant. Afternoon. Sorry, I'm a minute late, the lunch meeting overran. Retailer stuff, as always.
  4. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    No problem at all. I've only just sat down myself. How's the week been?
  5. Gemma Holt
    Gemma Holt None
    Busy, but a good busy. Actually, I've got a win to tell you about before we start, can I? One of our supermarket buyers came back on Tuesday saying our service levels had slipped on the bakery lines. Last year that would have been three days of me and a spreadsheet. This time I asked the brain, and it pulled the orders and the complaints together in about a minute. Turned out it was one site, one week, and a packaging delay. I had the answer in the meeting.
  6. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    That's exactly the use case you bought it for. Did the buyer accept the explanation?
  7. Gemma Holt
    Gemma Holt None
    Yeah, they did. Mostly because we got there before they'd finished asking. The account managers love it, honestly. They keep stopping me in the corridor.
  8. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Good. That's the sort of thing I like hearing. Right, so, just to confirm what we're here for, so I don't waste your time. You want to get customer service onto the brain, and you'd like the paperwork done by next week. Is that still right?
  9. Gemma Holt
    Gemma Holt None
    Still right. Can we get customer service on, that's the whole thing. They're the ones who take the calls when a retailer complains, and right now they're ringing me to ask what's happening with an order. It's daft. They should just ask it themselves.
  10. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Mm. Before I put a number on it, can I check where you are today? You're on Growth, forty licensed users, and the usage I'm looking at says the number of people actually active has nearly doubled compared with the previous quarter. Does that match what you see?
  11. Gemma Holt
    Gemma Holt None
    Yeah, that's the account managers coming on properly. At the start it was me and a couple of others. Now every supermarket team has someone in there most days.
  12. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Right. And I should be straight with you, because I don't like selling people things the usage doesn't support. You're nowhere near the forty. So there's headroom already. The question is whether the customer service team fits inside what you've got, or whether you need something on top.
  13. Gemma Holt
    Gemma Holt None
    Oh. Okay. I mean, I appreciate you saying that. Honestly I wasn't sure. What would it cost to add them, was my thinking, and I assumed it was seats.
  14. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    So it's less about seats and more about what they'd be looking at. Can I ask how many people are we talking about in customer service, roughly, and what do they need to see?
  15. Gemma Holt
    Gemma Holt None
    A small team, really. A handful on the phones, plus the person who leads them, plus a couple who do the complaints log. They need orders, the complaints, and the retailer account history. That's it. They don't need the finance side or anything.
  16. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    That's helpful. And the complaints, where do those live today? Is that the helpdesk, or something internal?
  17. Gemma Holt
    Gemma Holt None
    The helpdesk, mostly. Zendesk. And then orders come through the CRM. We did that in the first rollout, so both are already connected.
  18. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Good, so no new connectors, which keeps it simple. Then what I'm putting together is an expansion quote for getting that team set up and covered under your existing Growth subscription, with some training from Amara so they're not left to work it out themselves. Let me share it. Give me a second.
  19. Gemma Holt
    Gemma Holt None
    Sure. Take your time. I'll get a coffee, I'm dying here.
  20. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Sorry, bear with me, the document was in the wrong folder. Can you see my screen?
  21. Gemma Holt
    Gemma Holt None
    I can, yeah. Bit small. Oh, that's better, you've zoomed in. Thanks.
  22. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    So at the top is what you have now. Growth, forty users, contracted at £50,000 a year, which is what's been invoiced as well, so those match. Your term runs to 4 Jan 2027 and the renewal date is 5 Jan 2027.
  23. Gemma Holt
    Gemma Holt None
    Right. That's the one thing I wanted to ask, actually. If we do this now, does it mess up the renewal? Because that's going to be a whole conversation with the budget holder.
  24. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    No, that's why I've co-termed it to your renewal. Whatever we agree now ends on the same day as the main contract, so you have one date to think about, not two. It doesn't change the £50,000 and it doesn't create a second renewal.
  25. Gemma Holt
    Gemma Holt None
    Okay, good. That's what I hoped. And the number?
  26. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    To put a number on it, the quote comes to £4,405, plus VAT. That's the total for this expansion, everything included, from signature through to your renewal.
  27. Gemma Holt
    Gemma Holt None
    Mm. Right. Okay. That's, yeah, that's less than I'd braced for. I thought it'd be a bigger conversation.
  28. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Well, it's a smaller change than you might think. You're not buying a new product, you're bringing another team onto what you already have. I'd rather it be proportionate.
  29. Gemma Holt
    Gemma Holt None
    Fair. What happens if it goes up later? If more people from customer service want on, or, I don't know, the sales team hear about it and want in?
  30. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Good question. You've got room under the forty, so a few more people wouldn't change anything. If you went well beyond that, or you wanted more sources connected, we'd look at that at renewal, and I'd only recommend it if the usage backed it up. I won't push you before then.
  31. Gemma Holt
    Gemma Holt None
    That's fine. That's honestly what I'd want. I'd rather not buy something we don't use.
  32. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Agreed. Now, one more check from my side. I saw you've had one ticket in the last month, and nothing high priority. Was that anything I should know about?
  33. Gemma Holt
    Gemma Holt None
    Oh, that was me, a how-to question. I couldn't work out how to save a view for the account managers. Got the answer the same day, so no complaints. Never hide a problem, that's my rule, so if there was one you'd hear it.
  34. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Good, I'll take that. And you're up to date on invoices from what I can see, so there's nothing hanging on our side either.
  35. Gemma Holt
    Gemma Holt None
    Finance would have shouted at me by now if there was. They're very good at that.
  36. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Ha. Right. So, process. What does it take on your side to get this signed? You mentioned the budget holder.
  37. Gemma Holt
    Gemma Holt None
    Yeah. I can't sign this myself, it has to go past the person who holds the budget. I've never bought anything without them and I'm not about to start. But I know they'll like it, because it's the same thing the account managers keep raving about, just for another team.
  38. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    That's sensible. What does that person usually need to see? I can make it easy for you.
  39. Gemma Holt
    Gemma Holt None
    One page, really. What are we buying, what does it cost, when does it end, and why. The why I can write myself. The bakery thing from Tuesday is the why.
  40. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Then I'll put the quote in a clean one-pager with the co-termed end date on it, and I'll send that over today, so you've got it before the end of the day. You can forward it as it is.
  41. Gemma Holt
    Gemma Holt None
    Perfect. And the timing? I'm hoping to get it back to you by the end of next week. Does that work?
  42. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    It does. I have it pencilled in for 17 Jun 2026, which is next Wednesday, so you'd have a few days either side if the sign-off needs a nudge. If it slips by a day or two, that's not an issue. I just don't want it drifting into the summer.
  43. Gemma Holt
    Gemma Holt None
    No, I'll chase. I don't let things sit, ask anyone.
  44. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    I've noticed. Okay, let me pass to the practical side, because I know you care about this more than the paperwork. Once it's signed, Amara will pick it up as your customer success manager. She'd normally do a short session with the customer service team, show them how to ask it questions, and agree who the first users are.
  45. Gemma Holt
    Gemma Holt None
    Lovely. Can she do it with the team lead sitting in? She's the one who'll make it stick. If she thinks it's a gimmick, the rest won't bother.
  46. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    I'd say that's the right instinct. I'll make a note for Amara that the team lead should be in the room, and that you'd like the first session to use real complaints, not demo data.
  47. Gemma Holt
    Gemma Holt None
    Yes. Yes please. Use last month's. They'll recognise them and then it clicks.
  48. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Done. Anything else you want from the quote before I send it? Anything missing, anything you'd want worded differently for your budget holder?
  49. Gemma Holt
    Gemma Holt None
    Um. One thing. Can you put the VAT thing clearly on it? Last time someone asked whether the figure included it and I had to go back and check.
  50. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Yes. It'll say £4,405 plus VAT, in the summary and again at the bottom, so there's no doubt. I'm careful about that.
  51. Gemma Holt
    Gemma Holt None
    Great. Then I don't think I've got anything else. Oh, wait, sorry, one thing. Does the quote cover the call recorder? We talked ages ago about calls going in as well.
  52. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Not in this one. This is just bringing customer service onto what's already connected. If you wanted the call recorder in, that's a separate conversation about connectors, and I'd look at it properly with Amara rather than quote it from memory. Do you want me to flag it for the review later in the year?
  53. Gemma Holt
    Gemma Holt None
    Yeah, flag it. Not urgent. Let's get customer service done first, then see how it goes.
  54. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Sensible. Good, so to recap. I send you the quote today, £4,405 plus VAT, co-termed to your renewal on 5 Jan 2027. You take it to the budget holder, aiming to get it back by the end of next week. Then Amara sets up the session for customer service, with the team lead in the room, using real complaints.
  55. Gemma Holt
    Gemma Holt None
    That's it. Perfect. Thank you, Lewis. This is the easiest purchase I've ever tried to make.
  56. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Good to hear. I'll keep it that way. Speak soon, Gemma, and well done on the bakery answer.
  57. Gemma Holt
    Gemma Holt None
    Cheers. Bye for now.

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