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Penvarra Digital / BG-Demo – Negotiation

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Penvarra Digital logo Penvarra Digital · 17 Nov 2023 13:30

Penvarra Digital negotiated a Starter deal on 17 Nov 2023. Managing Director Fiona Ingham asked for a quick-signing discount; Owen Tallis offered one if signed by Friday, with an order form to follow that afternoon.

What was said

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As at Fri 9 Oct 2026

Penvarra Digital negotiated a Starter deal on 17 Nov 2023. Managing Director Fiona Ingham asked for a quick-signing discount; Owen Tallis offered one if signed by Friday, with an order form to follow that afternoon.

What happened: Tom Ashdown quoted Starter at £26k for the first year, setup and subscription combined. Owen Tallis offered a discount if the order form was signed by Friday.

Customer view: Toby Lister liked the demo and said it would make life easier for the team. Fiona Ingham focused on investment and commitment, and said cash flow matters for a growing agency.

Commercial: Tom said he would send an order form with Owen's numbers that afternoon, signed by Fiona alone. Kickoff was to follow the Monday after signature, with go-live inside the four-week implementation. The transcript gives no discounted figure.

Watch: the call shows a plan, not a signature. Executed paper would settle the contracted price and terms. The discount was offered under time pressure and the first-term discount cap applies.

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Themes

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
Theme
Starter price negotiation
Importance
renewal
Sentiment
positive
Voice
decision-maker

Who was there

BG-Demo

Them

Follow-up

Next steps

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Tom Ashdown sends the order form with Owen Tallis's discounted numbers the same afternoon.
  • Owen Tallis chases Fiona Ingham for the signed form on the Friday morning.
  • Toby Lister arranges the IT access needed for kickoff.

Risks

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Discount conceded under a sign-by-Friday deadline may set a price expectation at the first renewal.
  • Cash flow is a stated concern for the customer, so price sensitivity is likely to return.

Opportunities

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Close a Starter order form quickly and start the four-week implementation.
  • A growing agency may later need more users or connectors than Starter includes.

Transcript

  1. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Fiona, Toby, thanks for taking the call. So we've walked through the demo. How are you both feeling?
  2. Toby Lister
    Toby Lister
    It looks solid. I can see how this would make life easier for the team. But Fiona's got questions on the commercial side.
  3. Fiona Ingham
    Fiona Ingham
    I want to understand the investment and the commitment.
  4. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Fair. So for Starter: which is what Toby was looking at: it's £25,500 for the first year, all-in.
  5. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    Owen here, VP Sales. That's your setup and your first year subscription combined. Year two onwards, you renew at the subscription rate. Annual contract, thirty-day exit clause.
  6. Fiona Ingham
    Fiona Ingham
    Is there flexibility on price?
  7. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    There's some room on first term. What's your thinking?
  8. Fiona Ingham
    Fiona Ingham
    We're a growing agency. Cash flow is important. Is there a discount if we sign quickly?
  9. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    How quickly?
  10. Fiona Ingham
    Fiona Ingham
    This week?
  11. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    This week is ambitious but doable. I can move the price a bit if you sign by Friday. Not a huge amount, we're disciplined on discounts, but something meaningful.
  12. Toby Lister
    Toby Lister
    What does implementation look like?
  13. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Four weeks from signature to go-live. We need your IT team for system access. Otherwise we run the heavy lifting.
  14. Fiona Ingham
    Fiona Ingham
    When would we go live?
  15. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    If you sign Friday, we kick off the following Monday. So live by end of the month.
  16. Fiona Ingham
    Fiona Ingham
    That's tight but doable.
  17. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    OK. So if I send you an order form this afternoon with a discount, can you turn it around by Friday?
  18. Fiona Ingham
    Fiona Ingham
    Who needs to sign it?
  19. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Just you, I reckon. And we'll need Toby's IT contact for the access side.
  20. Toby Lister
    Toby Lister
    That's me, pretty much. I can get you what you need.
  21. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Brilliant. So Fiona, I'll send you an order form with Owen's numbers this afternoon. It's straightforward, what you're buying, the price, the dates.
  22. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    And I'll chase you Friday morning to make sure we've got it.
  23. Fiona Ingham
    Fiona Ingham
    What about support once we're live?
  24. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Email and chat, four-hour response on critical issues. We check in every six months.
  25. Toby Lister
    Toby Lister
    And if we hit issues during implementation?
  26. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    You reach out to our solutions team. They're supporting you through those four weeks.
  27. Fiona Ingham
    Fiona Ingham
    OK. So order form this afternoon, we sign Friday, you kick off Monday.
  28. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    That's the plan.
  29. Fiona Ingham
    Fiona Ingham
    Alright. Cheers, both.
  30. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Cheers, Fiona. Speak soon.

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