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On 21 Sep 2023 Penvarra Digital saw a Starter demo across Salesforce, Google Workspace and HubSpot. Toby and Steve were positive and agreed to a proposal. Toby asked about saving queries, which is a Growth feature.

What was said

What this says

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026

On 21 Sep 2023 Penvarra Digital saw a Starter demo across Salesforce, Google Workspace and HubSpot. Toby and Steve were positive and agreed to a proposal. Toby asked about saving queries, which is a Growth feature.

What happened: Tobias Renwick walked Toby Lister and Steve Yates through search over Penvarra's connected systems. Tom Ashdown agreed to send a proposal the following week.

Customer view: Steve said the cross-system question matched what the team wanted, and called the demo "genuinely useful". Toby asked to see the numbers.

Commercial: The scope discussed was Starter, with 15 users, 4 connectors and a 4 week implementation. Toby's questions on saving queries and adding data sources touch the Growth dashboards builder and 8 connectors.

Watch: Tobias said higher tiers get more frequent syncs, but Tom later said nightly refresh applies to every tier. That sets a freshness expectation the order form should settle.

AI · claude-sonnet-5-5 · as at Fri 9 Oct 2026

Themes

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
Theme
Starter demo, new business
Importance
neutral
Sentiment
positive
Voice
champion

Who was there

BG-Demo

Them

Follow-up

Next steps

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Tom Ashdown to send the Starter proposal to Toby Lister the following week and arrange a follow-up call.

Risks

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Tobias said higher tiers get more frequent syncs while nightly refresh applies to every tier, so the freshness expectation may be unclear.
  • Toby's wish to save and schedule queries is a Growth feature, so Starter may feel limiting.

Opportunities

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • The questions on saved queries and extra data sources point to a later move to Growth with its dashboards builder and 8 connectors.

Transcript

  1. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Right, everyone on?
  2. Tobias Renwick
    Tobias Renwick
    I'm here. Just give it a second.
  3. Toby Lister
    Toby Lister
    Yes, I'm on.
  4. Steve Yates
    Steve Yates
    Hi, yeah, all good here.
  5. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Brilliant. So Tobias, our CTO, is going to walk you through this. Tobias, to remind you, Toby and Steve have data scattered across Salesforce, Google Workspace, and other places. They need their account managers to be able to ask questions fast. Over to you.
  6. Tobias Renwick
    Tobias Renwick
    Thanks, Tom. Right, so what we've done is connected Penvarra's Salesforce, Google Workspace, and HubSpot. All of that's sitting inside your Snowflake instance, which you control. None of this data is stored by us or anywhere else. It's all yours. To be precise, what we've built is an AI layer on top of that data, and it understands your schema. So instead of writing queries, you ask questions in plain language.
  7. Toby Lister
    Toby Lister
    Right. So I could just ask it a question?
  8. Tobias Renwick
    Tobias Renwick
    That's right. Let me show you. So I'm going to search for a campaign. Say, show me the performance of the June campaign. And there it is. You can see spend, clicks, impressions, and engagement from your email system. All from one query, across two systems.
  9. Steve Yates
    Steve Yates
    That's actually quite slick. How accurate is that? Is the data always up to date?
  10. Tobias Renwick
    Tobias Renwick
    Good question. We sync data nightly. So every morning you've got fresh data from the night before. That's what's in Penvarra's case. For you as a Starter, that's the refresh cycle. Higher tiers get more frequent syncs if needed.
  11. Toby Lister
    Toby Lister
    And you mentioned queries. Can I build my own? Like, can I save a query and run it regularly?
  12. Tobias Renwick
    Tobias Renwick
    Not quite in the way you're thinking. Starter tier gives you the search interface, which is what you're seeing. You ask questions, you get answers. That's the interface. On Growth tier, you get a dashboards builder, so you can save queries as dashboards and set them to refresh. For now, let me show you more of what's possible in search.
  13. Tobias Renwick
    Tobias Renwick
    So Toby, I'm going to ask something more complex. Show me clients where spend last quarter was over five thousand but this quarter it's trending down. And there. That's your at-risk list.
  14. Steve Yates
    Steve Yates
    That's exactly the kind of thing we've been wanting to know. Currently we'd have to pull Salesforce and Google separately, then manually compare. How often could we run that?
  15. Tobias Renwick
    Tobias Renwick
    As often as you want. Every day if you wanted. The brain is always available, and the data refreshes every night, so you're never more than a day behind.
  16. Toby Lister
    Toby Lister
    What about sharing? Can I send that list to someone?
  17. Tobias Renwick
    Tobias Renwick
    You can. You can export as CSV or just copy the link and share it. Anyone on your team can access it if they're a user in the system.
  18. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    And Starter tier, which is what we'd be talking about for you, includes up to fifteen users. So you could get your account managers and analysts in, they all get access.
  19. Steve Yates
    Steve Yates
    What about access control? Can I limit who sees what?
  20. Tobias Renwick
    Tobias Renwick
    On Starter, access is binary. Either someone has access to the brain or they don't. If they do, they can see all the data. If your needs get more granular, that's where Growth and Enterprise tiers come in, with more controls. But to be honest, most teams don't need that level of permission management straight away.
  21. Toby Lister
    Toby Lister
    Fair enough. What about if we want to add more data sources? Like, say we add Marketo, or we want to pull in some custom database.
  22. Tobias Renwick
    Tobias Renwick
    Starter gives you four connectors. So you could connect Salesforce, Google Workspace, HubSpot, and one more. If you wanted more, you'd upgrade to Growth, which gives you eight. Or you could add connectors one at a time.
  23. Steve Yates
    Steve Yates
    How long does it take to add a connector? Is it an implementation thing?
  24. Tobias Renwick
    Tobias Renwick
    It depends on the connector. Standard ones like Salesforce or HubSpot, usually a few days. Custom sources or unusual systems might take longer. We'd assess when you ask.
  25. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    And all of that's part of the implementation phase. So when you sign up, we do a four-week implementation, we get all the connectors set up, we train everyone, and you're live.
  26. Toby Lister
    Toby Lister
    What happens if something breaks? Like, what if the Salesforce sync stops?
  27. Tobias Renwick
    Tobias Renwick
    Good question. If a connector fails, you'll see a notification in the interface. We also monitor it on our side. Starter tier gives you support during UK business hours, so we'd get to it. Most issues are on the customer's side: API key changed, that sort of thing. We handle that.
  28. Steve Yates
    Steve Yates
    And data security? You said it's all in our Snowflake?
  29. Tobias Renwick
    Tobias Renwick
    That's right. The data lives in your Snowflake instance, which you control completely. We have access to build and maintain the brain, but the data itself is yours. You can audit access, you can revoke our access, you own the encryption. It's your data.
  30. Toby Lister
    Toby Lister
    Okay. That's actually really clear. What would the next step be?
  31. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    So we'd put together a proposal. We'd walk you through what we've shown today, the scope of connectors, the implementation timeline, pricing. Then we'd have a call to discuss any questions, and if everyone's happy, we'd get an order form signed and we'd kick off.
  32. Steve Yates
    Steve Yates
    How long is the implementation?
  33. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Four weeks for Starter. We'd set up your connectors, configure the brain, train your team, and hand it over to you live.
  34. Toby Lister
    Toby Lister
    And then what? Is it support only after that?
  35. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    More or less. You've got support included, you can ask questions, and you can add connectors or users as you go. If you want to upgrade to Growth, you can do that anytime.
  36. Steve Yates
    Steve Yates
    This is genuinely useful. I can see how this saves time.
  37. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Brilliant. So I'll put together a proposal and send it over by next week. Toby, you're happy with that?
  38. Toby Lister
    Toby Lister
    Yeah, let's do it. I'm keen to see the numbers.
  39. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Brilliant. I'll get that over, and then we can have a quick call to discuss it. Cheers, everyone.
  40. Toby Lister
    Toby Lister
    Thanks, Tom. Thanks, Tobias.
  41. Steve Yates
    Steve Yates
    Yeah, really helpful. Cheers.
  42. Tobias Renwick
    Tobias Renwick
    Thanks. Speak soon.

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